Unless there's some billionaire that wants to throw couple hundred mill on a non studio all creative scifi saga then we're gonna have to deal with what we get.
Star Wars - The Last Jedi
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Not necessarily untrue, but a bit pessimistic. I think there is room for 'a new hope'.
Its really cool that a dp is that involved with the final look!
couldn't disagree more. u can cover some of the holes up, but if u don't have proper plot structure - even using the most stereotypical journey of the hero structure - u will lose out.
Now, excellence in execution (the production as a whole) can make up for a few things, but the piece won't be remembered without a proper story and character development. All SW movies are superbly produced. Story wise they are all very thin, one reason being is that the whole franchise was conceptualized as a soap opera in space that cast unknown B or C movie actors as leads (for cheap). Harrison wasn't first, second or third choice and wasn't a star yet anyways.
E8 is a great example of how beautiful VFX and great production value can make a movie watchable, but u won't remember any of it. Because there is nothing to remember. And btw, with VFX I mean here artwork and seamless integration. This movie - again - would have been a chance to show something NEW (they had all the resources in the world)... like the first time we saw the AT-AT walkers in Empire... come up with something.
But zero story and VFX repeating what we've seen already 100 times (as beautiful as it is), ends up in this craziness:
https://www.change.org/p/the-walt-d...tar-wars-episode-viii-from-the-official-canon
Holy Yoda.
Online petititons are usually dumb but that petition is way up the dumb list.
There is plenty of that. You're just not going to find it in pictures that cost $200 million to make because there needs to be some commercial appeal to recoup that kind of cost. But saying that it doesn't exist because of larger projects like Star Wars just indicates that you're not paying attention. For every Star Wars or Avengers movie, there are dozens of Ex Machinas, District 9's, and, yes, even Logans. Not to mention the hundreds of pictures a year that aren't big VFX extravaganzas but succeed in having you thinking as you leave the theater. There is a place (and a financial need) for the tentpoles, but there is also a need for the more human stories, and pictures like that are available in droves if you just look. Not to mention the vast number of titles available on Netflix, Amazon, and other services. The complaint that there isn't room for these is a bit silly when there's more of it available today than there ever has been. It isn't a binary choice.
Moon was pretty dope too. Neil Blomkamp also created a new studio called Oats Studios and they're making pretty cool shorts that you can watch for free or buy them with some extras like CG-models and screenplays.
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I don't remember being drunk as I wrote my post, but the way quotes are pulled from it, I'm not so sure anymore... =)
The quote you pull is quite out of context. That paragraph was meant to read:
Regardless of the quality of the script, lots and lots of talented people will work their ass off behind the scenes. It's not fair to them to view the script as a simple excuse to round everybody up and start shooting; just a thin thread tying everything together.... I would like to see better scripts on big production like this for everybody's sake.
So the snippet-quote you pull reflect my feelings—inverted.
I think Interstellar had a $160M budget and has made around $550-650M or something. I don't remember many pies being thrown into peoples faces in that movie.
I'm not saying those movies don't exist. And I don't mind the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I read a lot of comics growing up and now I'm watching the movies. I'm not disappointed by them since they meet my expectations pretty well for what they are supposed to be.
But the original Star Wars trilogy was nowhere near the level of silliness that we see now. It is my personal opinion that Star Wars has been made into something it wasn't. I'm pretty sure they're making more money with it, but I wish they could have stayed true to the original tone of the movies.
Then again, it was Lucas himself that started the departure in his second wave of movies, so there's that.
It was a wish, not a complaint. And in terms of being a "complaining, inattentive, silly simpleton"… that's a language I'd prefer to not use myself, but we're all entitled to an opinion.
The quote you pull is quite out of context. That paragraph was meant to read:
Regardless of the quality of the script, lots and lots of talented people will work their ass off behind the scenes. It's not fair to them to view the script as a simple excuse to round everybody up and start shooting; just a thin thread tying everything together.... I would like to see better scripts on big production like this for everybody's sake.
So the snippet-quote you pull reflect my feelings—inverted.
I think Interstellar had a $160M budget and has made around $550-650M or something. I don't remember many pies being thrown into peoples faces in that movie.
I'm not saying those movies don't exist. And I don't mind the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I read a lot of comics growing up and now I'm watching the movies. I'm not disappointed by them since they meet my expectations pretty well for what they are supposed to be.
But the original Star Wars trilogy was nowhere near the level of silliness that we see now. It is my personal opinion that Star Wars has been made into something it wasn't. I'm pretty sure they're making more money with it, but I wish they could have stayed true to the original tone of the movies.
Then again, it was Lucas himself that started the departure in his second wave of movies, so there's that.
It was a wish, not a complaint. And in terms of being a "complaining, inattentive, silly simpleton"… that's a language I'd prefer to not use myself, but we're all entitled to an opinion.
yes we build a plugin for it, but it is so slow that is not worth itt...
that also was one of my favorite bit...
Curious was the speed limitation a problem with the resolve architecture? Or was it solely due to the ability to utilize a render farm /multiple machines with Nuke.
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like joseph said, the renderfarm is a goos aavantage.
also in resolve unless you cache the plugin (OFX) it will have to render over and over. that plugin should be placed before everything, including the CDL: that will make the conform and starting point more cumbersome.
I could be wrong of course, but it sounds like the plugin was not optimised to run on GPUs. Porting the main transforms to CUDA or OpenCL would probably have led to real-time playback, or (at the very least) no discernible difference in performance compared to the native tools in Resolve.
The tools was using cuda, not sure how much optimized was, but it was not cpu.
Regardless, it was one less thing to worry during cc, one the files where in resolve, they where good to go.
Regardless, it was one less thing to worry during cc, one the files where in resolve, they where good to go.
I would give a few toes for a demo! But I guess you donˋt want my toes.
Lol!
I think it looked very pretty, for the most part at least. Kamikaze bit was amazing.
Script was super duper bad. Kind of like reading version 1 of a feature script, full of unnecessary characters. I kept thinking multiple times during the film that I was watching some comedy central parody version of star wars.
Script was super duper bad. Kind of like reading version 1 of a feature script, full of unnecessary characters. I kept thinking multiple times during the film that I was watching some comedy central parody version of star wars.
Writer/director Rian Johnson spent a long time on that script -- it was actually being written when The Force Awakens was still in production in the summer of 2014. You can bet it went through quite a few drafts. Whether you don't care for it or not is just an opinion, but I think they did put quite a bit of work in it.
Im actually aware of a small detail that Ryan suggested to jj to change in order to progress the story in a slightly different direction...
(A character being there instead of here at the end of VII)
(A character being there instead of here at the end of VII)
I enjoyed the film for the most part. Three things I would have liked to see go a different direction,
1. When Leia gets shot out of the ship into space I would have liked to see Kyle Ren save her with the force rather than Leia save herself. I think it would have helped support his inner struggle and taken away from her using the force to get back which I thought was a little weird and lame.
2. The Lightspeed scene that allows the rebels to escape; Leia sacrifices herself to save the others and stays on the ship and dies in epic fashion. It would be suiting for her character and the passing of the torch setting up a new rebel leader.
3. As Leia dies Kylo (who is about to fight holographic Luke) feels her death through the force and it fuels his rage even further with Luke. Especially if he saved her earlier in the movie this would be full circle to fuel his rage since she just committed suicide.
At the end of the film they could have done a nice ceremony for Leia for both the rebels and the “audience” to mourn and that would be the end of it. I think it’s going to be weird now in the next movie no matter what they do with her character.
Of course there are other things I would change as well but otherwise I enjoyed the film both from a story and technical perspective.
1. When Leia gets shot out of the ship into space I would have liked to see Kyle Ren save her with the force rather than Leia save herself. I think it would have helped support his inner struggle and taken away from her using the force to get back which I thought was a little weird and lame.
2. The Lightspeed scene that allows the rebels to escape; Leia sacrifices herself to save the others and stays on the ship and dies in epic fashion. It would be suiting for her character and the passing of the torch setting up a new rebel leader.
3. As Leia dies Kylo (who is about to fight holographic Luke) feels her death through the force and it fuels his rage even further with Luke. Especially if he saved her earlier in the movie this would be full circle to fuel his rage since she just committed suicide.
At the end of the film they could have done a nice ceremony for Leia for both the rebels and the “audience” to mourn and that would be the end of it. I think it’s going to be weird now in the next movie no matter what they do with her character.
Of course there are other things I would change as well but otherwise I enjoyed the film both from a story and technical perspective.
