What's everyone hoping for at NAB?

typo, nest = neat
the values are Neat's anylsis on the exported files with NR baked in
Clairity is an OFX in Resolve,
no issues with first frame, but i'm always working with cam orig, so loads of handles - would expect any temporal effect to struggle with a shot with no handles
it's faster in 2024, the machine i tested on is z840 with 2x 2699v4 / 3080Ti
light years faster when compared to running it native in a z800 with 2x5690 / Quadro5000 a decade ago ;-)
but the new native NR in Resolve is (much) faster
Thank you for clarification!

I don’t remember having the first frame issue in Phoenix, but it has been quite a break from when I was using it then ‘til the DVO OFXs coming out! I’d always thought Clarity was purely spacial processing. I can’t check as I’ve actually ditched them at our facility as they are too slow (on an 3.2 GHz 16-Core Xeon W with 2 x 32GB AMD W6900X) IMO for what they do, which isn’t unique, and keep dropping off the licensing halfway through play outs.

Looking forward to trying 19 and the NR but it might be awhile before I get my hands on it on a proper system.
 
My limited understanding of the new noise reduction is that it’s set more easily and not a new noise reduction method. Very happy with neat video plugin.
That's been my issue, some of the developments are basically new ways of working with the old tools. is the color warper a new color engine or just a new way of dealing with curves. Same question I would have with color slices. Not being negative but would like for BM to ba open and explain the "new" technology a bit more. Look forward to hearing reports from the floor.
 
Thank you for clarification!

I don’t remember having the first frame issue in Phoenix, but it has been quite a break from when I was using it then ‘til the DVO OFXs coming out! I’d always thought Clarity was purely spacial processing. I can’t check as I’ve actually ditched them at our facility as they are too slow (on an 3.2 GHz 16-Core Xeon W with 2 x 32GB AMD W6900X) IMO for what they do, which isn’t unique, and keep dropping off the licensing halfway through play outs.

Looking forward to trying 19 and the NR but it might be awhile before I get my hands on it on a proper system.

Not to deviate much from the post subject, but DVO Clarity is a Temporal filter. Performance has been improved in the last couple of years; we're slower than the GPU-based Resolve NR, but if Temporal and Spatial are used on a computer with a large number of cores you can get very close to realtime nowadays. Very different results, though, as Clarity was made to deal with grain management from film sources. We also introduced a new DVO called Velvet that deals with very aggressive noise levels.

Back to the subject, I'm always interested in new panels being released. The new Micro panel looks very interesting.
 
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Back to the subject, I'm always interested in new panels being released. The new Micro panel looks very interesting.
Funny, I had the opposite reaction. Though I said I wasn't going to wait for NAB to see if there were new panels to replace our dead Mini, I did, kind of by default. I was going to order one right before the show then decided to hold off another week, "just in case."

As soon as I saw the new micro panel I ordered another Mini. I am not willing to rely on Bluetooth for anything I have to do to get my work done. It gives me enough grief with my headphones, mice, keyboards, car, etc. It's the devil's tech, I tell ya!

(and running 40 feet of USB over the ceiling to our server room isn't something I'm willing to do at this point. We're already wired for ethernet and it just works). I am surprised they're still selling the Advanced panel for $28k though and that it didn't see a price drop.
 
Funny, I had the opposite reaction. Though I said I wasn't going to wait for NAB to see if there were new panels to replace our dead Mini, I did, kind of by default. I was going to order one right before the show then decided to hold off another week, "just in case."

As soon as I saw the new micro panel I ordered another Mini. I am not willing to rely on Bluetooth for anything I have to do to get my work done. It gives me enough grief with my headphones, mice, keyboards, car, etc. It's the devil's tech, I tell ya!

(and running 40 feet of USB over the ceiling to our server room isn't something I'm willing to do at this point. We're already wired for ethernet and it just works). I am surprised they're still selling the Advanced panel for $28k though and that it didn't see a price drop.

The market for the 30k+ panels is very small at this point. I am still curious to see if they will ever update the Advanced panel. The Mini panel is great, and probably the best seller. From what I can see you can use the Micro wired, so it's a really good laptop/travel/DIT cart panel. It's better than the last Micro, that's for sure.

The other thing I wanted to see was new monitors, but, after seeing the FSI QD-Oled in person, I'm good.
 
@Perry Paolantonio not to undermine your purchase (I would love to have a Mini myself), but you know there's USB over Ethernet adapters right? So you could just two of them, to switch from Panel -> USB -> Ethernet -> USB -> PC. Maybe I missed something or that would be too much switching, but just an idea from my side :)
 
@Perry Paolantonio not to undermine your purchase (I would love to have a Mini myself), but you know there's USB over Ethernet adapters right? So you could just two of them, to switch from Panel -> USB -> Ethernet -> USB -> PC. Maybe I missed something or that would be too much switching, but just an idea from my side :)
Adapters are asking for trouble. We try to avoid them when possible - home runs from device to server room whenever possible, and things just work.
 
Does anyone have a mapping pdf for the new panel? Not sure I'm interested but I'd love to know how much action they are getting with the shift up/down.

It has a button for auto color, the most useful feature of them all!
 
(and running 40 feet of USB over the ceiling to our server room isn't something I'm willing to do at this point. We're already wired for ethernet and it just works). I am surprised they're still selling the Advanced panel for $28k though and that it didn't see a price drop.
There is a solution for that: Blackmagic has advised for several years that if you need to extend a USB device (like an Advanced Panel or a Mini Panel) a long distance, use one of these...

Icron 2304 USB extender

It basically converts USB to CAT5, which you can run for hundreds (maybe over 1000) feet. There's lots of facilities in LA using them for their various color rooms.
 
During the blackmagic presentation one of the visual of the micro color panel was showing a mysterious knob not present on the physical end product and in the manual.
Instead of the "luma mix" knob there was a "blk offset" (black offset i presume) knob.

Do you know anything about this knob and it's purpose?

PS : actually a lot of buttons are different than the final model.

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During the blackmagic presentation one of the visual of the micro color panel was showing a mysterious knob not present on the physical end product and in the manual.
Instead of the "luma mix" knob there was a "blk offset" (black offset i presume) knob.

Do you know anything about this knob and it's purpose?

PS : actually a lot of buttons are different than the final model.

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Check my previous post, the PDF seems to be accurate. I think this was a bit of a Marketing mix-up, using images from an older model, maybe? The PDF seems to match the video reviews I've seen online in the last couple of days
 
Icron 2304 USB extender

It basically converts USB to CAT5, which you can run for hundreds (maybe over 1000) feet. There's lots of facilities in LA using them for their various color rooms.

That adapter costs almost as much as the panel! Adapters are just potential points of failure. Sure, they'll get you from point A to point B, but when it dies or starts to act flaky, it's just one more thing to have to debug.

Give me direct wires any day.
 
That adapter costs almost as much as the panel! Adapters are just potential points of failure. Sure, they'll get you from point A to point B, but when it dies or starts to act flaky, it's just one more thing to have to debug.

Give me direct wires any day.
No need for such an expensive extender. I am using Mini panel without problems with cheapo USB to CAT5 extender from Amazon. Also works for streamdeck and wireless mouse & keyboard.
 
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